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Klaus Wiese interview

Source: From email-correspondance, 2007
Author: Dolf Mulder

Klaus Wiese - Interview

In 2007 I had a short correspondance with Klaus Wiese. He was involved on the albums ‘Hosianna Mantra’ (1973) and ‘Seligpreisung’(1974). Here some quotes:

Klaus Wiese: To say it shortly, the phenomenon ‘Popol Vuh’ was only Florian Fricke himself. What he wanted to be played was exercised mostly by Conny and Daniel, who were the only ‘members’ of ‘Popol Vuh’. The others, including me, were temporary ‘guests’, like Holger Trültzsch on ‘Affenstunde’, and Bob Eliscu (oboe) on ‘In the Garden of Pharaohs’.

Dolf Mulder: How did you get into contact with Popol Vuh?

Klaus Wiese: I met Florian in the early seventies and he asked me to get a folding tambura from the music-shop of FAZAL INNAYAT KHAN in London, where I worked temporarily in these days.
Later on I played this tambura on some (invisible) tracks in an endless recording session in a church in eastern Bavaria near Peterskirchen, where Florian had temporarily a studio in a old castle, owned by the Duchess of Lehndorf.

Klaus Wiese: Florian, as a typical ‘pisces’ was very much addicted to 5-liter bottles of white wine, big Lebanon-joints for practical inspiration - and a medieval christian background of all kinds of inner experiences and visions.
Additionally he had some interest for Hinduism with all its ‘gods’ and ‘goddesses’, as it was quite common these days. Later on he made a year long overland trip to Nepal.
All music came out of his inner ‘vision’ and formed itself in many, many rehearsals - sometimes (10- times in one afternoon) - until the final ‘form’ was found .

Klaus Wiese: The disc I liked most from ‘Popol Vuh’ is an untypical one: ‘Affenstunde’ and second ‘Hosianna Mantra’. I see ‘Affenstunde’ as a neutral pace-maker for a form of ambient-music, that came later into existence.

Dolf Mulder: What made you leave the band?

Klaus Wiese: As I explained, I never ‘left’ the group as I never ‘joined’ any form of group. I kept in touch with Florian over the years until about 5 years before his death.

Dolf Mulder: How do you judge their importance from the present? Or, what do you percieve as the relevance of this group?

Klaus Wiese: Today I see Florian as a solitary pioneer of this age (60-s, 70-s). He was a visionary and his music is still ‘alive’ and beyond all pseudo-esoteric bullshit ( a term Florian used), like for example from Georg Deuter. They of course met in the small scene of music these days, consisting also of Peter Michael Hamel, Al Gromer and some other - lesser known - artists).
He was authentic in his form-principles of his music and never interested in cheap compromises of wordly gain.
He was always short of money in the typical artist-cliché, borrowing here and there, to make his ‘work’ go. Beyond wine and joints, he was always crystal clear (directed to the DIVINE, how he ‘saw’ it. On the piano there was always the old testament lying and he read there quite often, before he started playing.
We had quite often lenghty discussions about so-called ‘christian’ and ‘old-testamentical’ differences in accepting gods guide-lines. This happened only with me as I was not one of the musicians but had another background and my interest in music was not music ....

Dolf Mulder: Could you specify what in your experience makes up the religious quality of the music of Popol Vuh?

Klaus Wiese: The vibration-level of an old soul, that Florian was. It automatically actualizes in the ‘music’.

 

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On Popol Vuh's Revisited & Remixed 1970-1999

Source: Electronic Beats Magazine, 3, 2011
Author: Hans-Joachim Irmler

“Like a forgotten treasure chest”

Hans-Joachim Irmler on Popol Vuh’s Revisited & Remixed 1970-1999

Hans-Joachim Irmler is one of the founding members of the krautrock outfit Faust. Asie from his solo work, Irmler currently performs together with Einstürzende Neubauten percussionist FM Einheit and Berliner post-rockers To Rococo Rot. He lives in southern Germany where he also runs Klangbad Studios.

It is difficult nowadays to use the term ‘krautrock’ without confusing people: everyone seems to have a different definition. I can certainly speak for Faust, and because I knew Florian Fricke so well, I think I can do so for Popol Vuh too. Generally, the term ‘krautrock’ describes an entire spectrum of stylistic eclecticism within German progressive rock in the early seventies. Aside from the prog aspect, I think the main common denominator amongst krautrock bands was the insight that Germans couldn’t compete with the great American of British beat bands. We understood that this wasn’t part of our musical roots – especially because the Nazis had spurned anything jazz- or blues-oriented. No, what we Krauts brought to the table of international musical progress three decades after the war was sonic experimentation and the concept of rhythmic repetition.
At least in Germany, krautrock is still waiting to be discovered and embraced by the masses. It’s like a long forgotten treasure chest. I know Popol Vuh’s Florian Fricke suffered terribly from not being taken seriously in his home country. Neither his success in the UK nor his fame with Werner Herzog’s film scores were enough to satisfy his need for broader recognition. In my mind, I somehow link his untimely death to this disappointment.

This posthumously released Popol Vuh compilation will hopefully bring some awareness to some of the finest German music ever recorded.
This release comes with a bonus disc of remixes, including tracks by Mika Vainio of Pan Sonic, Mouse on mars, Thomas Fehlman and Moritz von Oswald, who’ve all done a good job in processing old into new. But far more than remixes, it’s the original pieces that stand their ground with adamant authority. Take ‘In den Gärten Pharaos’ from Popol Vuh’s 1971 album of the same title. At seventeen minutes long, this song is nothing less than majestic. And it doesn’t sound dated in the least. On the contrary, every single layer of percussion of Moog-III sound is interwoven in the most progressive and elegant possible way. Fricke’s use of melodies – or should I say his deconstruction of melodies – was visionary.
I know that when making music, Florian had very specific strategies. Shortly before his death in 2001, he came to visit me in my studio to discuss the possibility of collaboration. He left me with a tape containing the rough layout for a new Popol Vuh piece. I was surprised that there were such straight ahead melodies on the tracks, but he assured me that they would eventually be replaced.
Essentially the melody lines only served as a guideline for what was later to spliced, taken apart and put back together again in classic Fricke fashion. To my ear, there’s plenty of Popol Vuh in acts like Aphex Twin of Basic Channel.
Listening to this compilation was the first time in several years that I had listened to many of the Popol Vuh tracks. What surprised me was how easy it was to listen to Revisited & Remixed 1970-1999 in one go. At times, I had to remind myself that this was a compilation and not a proper album release – the songs fit together that well.
On a final not regarding the remixes: honestly, they’re mostly good. But for me the standout tracks is Mika Vainio’s remix of ‘Nachts: Schnee’. Vainio is the only artist to stay true to the structure of the Popol Vuh original. From what I can tell, the only thing he seems to have added is what I’d describe as ‘electronic slaps’, which appear out of the blue to hit you right in the face.
Listening to Vainio’s remix, I thought to myself: if Popol Vuh were still around and making music today, that’s exactly what they’d sound like. It was the listening to the continuation of a path Florian had laid out some forty years ago. If only he’d lived long enough to hear it.

 

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Popol Vuh remixed & Revisited

Source:: ZEIT Magazin / ZEIT-online, 2011-07-10
Author: Phillipp Wurm

POPOL VUH – REVISITED & REMIXED (interview with Jan St.Werner)

Wer die Krautrock-Band Popol Vuh hört, muss sich auf allerhand Sonderbarkeiten gefasst machen. Die Alben tragen rätselhafte Titel wie „Affenstunde“ oder „In den Gärten Pharaos“, und die Musik selbst, eingespielt mit Moog-Synthesizern und exotischen Percussions, klingt wie die Vertonung eines surrealen Traums. Das Doppelalbum „Popol Vuh – Revisited & Remixed“ erinnert nun mit einem Best-of und einer Remix-CD an die legendäre Band aus München. Vor genau zehn Jahren haben sich Popol Vuh aufgelöst, nachdem ihr Gründer Florian Fricke an einem Schlaganfall gestorben war. Wir haben einen Experten gefragt, warum Popol Vuh, die ihre größte Zeit in den 70er Jahren hatten und in erster Linie Instrumental-Stücke verfassten, heutzutage noch interessant sind: Jan St. Werner vom rheinischen Elektronik-Duo Mouse On Mars ist nicht nur ein großer Fan. Er hat für „Popol Vuh – Revisited & Remixed“ auch ein Remix des Popol-Vuh-Stücks „Through Pain To Heaven“ aufgenommen, zusammen mit Mouse On Mars. Er befindet sich übrigens in guter Gesellschaft: Musiker wie Peter Kruder oder Thomas Fehlmann (The Orb), bekannt für ihre Stilsicherheit, sind auf der Platte ebenfalls mit Remixen vertreten.

ZEITmagazin: Auf dem neuen Album verneigen sich bedeutende elektronische Musiker vor Popol Vuh. Warum so viel Ehre?

Jan St. Werner: Popol Vuh haben sich sehr verdient gemacht für die deutsche Nachkriegskultur. Es war doch wahnsinnig schrecklich, was man damals sonst so hörte, Sänger wie Peter Alexander oder Heinz Erhardt etwa. Krautrock-Projekte wie Popol Vuh – oder auch Can und Amon Düül – haben dagegen Freiheit und Anarchie in die Musik gebracht. Davon ging eine unglaubliche Kraft aus. Zudem haben sich Popol Vuh wohltuend vom Dogmatismus abgehoben, der in den 60er und 70er Jahren in der elektronischen Avantgarde an den akademischen Institutionen herrschte. Ein Komponist wie Karl-Heinz Stockhausen besaß ja eine sehr große Ernsthaftigkeit.

ZEITmagazin: Popol Vuh sind bekannt für ihre Zusammenarbeit mit Werner Herzog – Filme wie „Aguirre“ oder „Fitzcarraldo“ belieferten sie mit Soundtracks. Warum haben Band und Regisseur so gut harmoniert?

Werner: Sowohl die Filme von Werner Herzog als auch die Stücke von Popol Vuh haben mit klassischer Narration nicht viel zu tun. Manche Popol-Vuh-Stücke sind ja nicht mehr als ein zehnminütiges Intro. Und Werner Herzog wiederum nimmt sich sehr viel Zeit für Details, hat eine unglaubliche Geduld, um eine künstlerische Idee zu entfalten. Hinzu kommt, dass beide das gleiche Lebensthema haben: Sie wollen zeigen, dass es der menschliche Wahnsinn ist, der alles zusammenhält.

ZEITmagazin: Wann bist du das erste Mal mit der Musik von Popol Vuh in Berührung gekommen?

Werner: Ich müsste 15, 16 Jahre alt gewesen sein. Damals, Mitte der 80er Jahre, habe ich nach Musik geforscht, die mir neue Räume eröffnete. Dazu zählten neben den Talking Heads, Brian Eno oder Industrial-Bands eben auch Popol Vuh.

ZEITmagazin: Gibt es Beispiele in der aktuellen Popmusik, in denen du den Geist von Popol Vuh oder anderen Krautrockern wiederfindest?

Werner: Es gibt einige Musiker aus den USA, die womöglich eine ähnliche Freiheit wie Popol Vuh ausleben – Sänger aus der Freak-Folk-Szene etwa oder Bands wie Animal Collective. Musiker, die es sich leisten, zu experimentieren. Auch bei Stücken von Pop-Projekten wie LCD Soundsystem denke ich manchmal: Ist das nicht ein Remix von Can?

ZEITmagazin: Auf der Remix-CD sind Mouse On Mars mit einem Remix von „Through Pain to Heaven“ vertreten, einem Stück aus Herzogs „Nosferatu“. Warum ausgerechnet dieses Stück?

Werner: Das war reine Willkür, einen speziellen Grund gab es nicht. Das Stück bietet einfach genug Material. Als wir Popol Vuhs Werk durchstöberten, haben wir es entdeckt. Eine gewisse Schizophrenie war allerdings schon im Spiel. Einerseits hatten wir großen Respekt vor dem Stück. Andererseits mussten wir diesen Respekt überwinden, um das Stück als Klangmaterial für unseren Remix wahrnehmen zu können. Glücklicherweise ist uns das gelungen.

Die Fragen stellte Philipp Wurm

 

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